2017 Q70 3.7: Check Engine Light with P0420 and P0430 Codes

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Jennifer H. · rep 0 · May 22, 5:04 AM · 1 replies · solved · Question

Vehicle: 2017 Infiniti Q70 3.7

Hello Infiniti community,

I'm dealing with a persistent Check Engine Light on my 2017 Infiniti Q70 3.7. I've scanned it multiple times, and it consistently throws codes P0420 and P0430. These are for 'Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold' for Bank 1 and Bank 2, respectively.

The car seems to be running fine, no noticeable loss of power or strange noises, but the CEL is always on. I'm worried about having to replace both catalytic converters, as I know that can be a very expensive repair. The car has about 85,000 miles on it.

Has anyone with a VQ37VHR engine experienced these codes? Is there anything else I should check before jumping to the conclusion that the cats are bad? Could it be O2 sensors or something else entirely? Any advice is appreciated!

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ClearTheCode admin answer:

The P0420 and P0430 codes indicate that your vehicle's catalytic converters are not operating at optimal efficiency. While these codes often point to failing catalytic converters, there are other components that can trigger them.

Common Causes & Diagnostics:

  1. Failing Catalytic Converters: Over time, catalytic converters can become clogged or their internal substrate can degrade, reducing their ability to convert harmful emissions. This is the most direct interpretation of these codes.
  2. Oxygen Sensors (O2 Sensors): The post-catalytic converter (downstream) O2 sensors monitor the efficiency of the catalytic converter. If these sensors are faulty, they can send incorrect readings to the ECU, falsely indicating a problem with the catalyst.
    • Action: A diagnostic scan tool can monitor live O2 sensor data. Look for the downstream sensors to fluctuate less than the upstream sensors. If they mimic the upstream sensors, it could indicate a bad cat or a bad downstream O2 sensor.
  3. Exhaust Leaks: Leaks in the exhaust system, especially before or between the O2 sensors, can allow unmetered air into the exhaust stream, skewing O2 sensor readings and triggering catalyst efficiency codes.
    • Action: Visually inspect the exhaust system for cracks, holes, or loose connections. Listen for hissing sounds.
  4. Engine Misfires or Rich/Lean Conditions: Persistent engine misfires or an engine running consistently too rich or too lean can damage catalytic converters over time by introducing unburnt fuel or excessive heat.
    • Action: Check for any other active or pending engine codes that might indicate a primary engine issue.
  5. Fuel Quality/Additives: Poor fuel quality or certain fuel additives can sometimes affect O2 sensor readings or catalytic converter performance.

When to See a Shop:

  • If you've checked for exhaust leaks and confirmed no other engine codes are present.
  • A professional can perform a backpressure test to confirm if the catalytic converters are clogged.
  • They can also use advanced diagnostic tools to accurately assess O2 sensor function and determine if the catalytic converters genuinely need replacement. Replacing O2 sensors first is often a more cost-effective diagnostic step before committing to expensive catalytic converter replacement.